Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/25/2002 01:10 PM House RES

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HB 508-DIVE FISHERY ASSOCIATIONS/PSP REPORTS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCALZI announced  the  final order  of business,  HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO. 508,  "An Act  relating  to publication  of results  of                                                               
testing for  paralytic shellfish  poisoning by the  Department of                                                               
Environmental   Conservation   and   to  participation   of   the                                                               
Department of  Environmental Conservation  in the  development of                                                               
operating    plans   of    qualified   regional    dive   fishery                                                               
associations."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1300                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCALZI,  speaking  on  behalf of  the  House  Resources                                                               
Standing Committee,  sponsor of HB 508,  explained that paralytic                                                               
shellfish poisoning  (PSP) is a serious  biological disorder that                                                               
occurs naturally  in shellfish; therefore,  it is in  the state's                                                               
best interest to  ensure that it is monitored to  the best of the                                                               
state's   ability  through   the   Department  of   Environmental                                                               
Conservation (DEC).   The reporting of this disorder,  as well as                                                               
the  testing,  is  an  advantage to  the  dive-fish  industry  in                                                               
particular, so that  information can be posted online  as soon as                                                               
possible.  In  addition, the department will  benefit by shifting                                                               
the [responsibility] of making the  announcement to the industry,                                                               
rather  than having  to  send out  individual  facsimiles as  the                                                               
[test results]  become available.   It creates an  efficiency and                                                               
is also  available for the  general public to know  which beaches                                                               
or areas may have concentrations of PSP.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1186                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCALZI addressed  the second  part of  the bill,  which                                                               
speaks to DEC's involvement, along  with the Alaska Department of                                                               
Fish and  Game (ADF&G),  in the  development of  the associations                                                               
for the dive [fisheries].   He explained that DEC is [supportive]                                                               
because  it  will  be  more  involved  and  will  have  "upfront"                                                               
information and input  regarding the dive fishery.   He clarified                                                               
that  [HB  508] was  requested  by  the [shellfish]  industry  in                                                               
concurrence with DEC.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1127                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JULIE DECKER, Executive Director,  Southeast Alaska Regional Dive                                                               
Fisheries  Association  (SARDFA), testified  via  teleconference.                                                               
She  told  the  committee  SARDFA   supports  HB  508;  she  also                                                               
mentioned  that a  letter of  support had  been submitted  to the                                                               
committee.   She  offered some  background on  how DEC  currently                                                               
distributes PSP  results.  In  the past, lab personnel  faxed the                                                               
shipper who'd  paid for the  test as  soon as possible  after the                                                               
results were  known.   This year,  upon the  request of  SARDFA -                                                               
which paid  for the first  19 tests in  the geoduck season  - the                                                               
lab faxed  all registered geoduck  shippers, DEC  regulators, and                                                               
the SARDFA office  when the results were known;  then SARDFA sent                                                               
e-mails to its members and posted the results on its web site.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DECKER  explained  that  ADF&G currently  has  a  system  of                                                               
posting its  news releases through  software that  allows sending                                                               
an e-mail contained in the  news release to its distribution list                                                               
of people  and posting  the news  release on its  web site  - all                                                               
with a  "single click of a  button."  She highlighted  reasons to                                                               
post the PSP results  on the web site.  First,  it creates a more                                                               
efficient  process for  the DEC  lab to  distribute the  results.                                                               
Second, it eliminates problems associated  [the question of] "who                                                               
is allowed or  when they are allowed to see  PSP results"; if DEC                                                               
is  removed from  having  to deal  with that  issue  at all,  the                                                               
results will automatically get posted,  enabling public access to                                                               
that  information.   Third, it  fits  a "vision"  of a  developed                                                               
shellfish industry in Alaska, which  is performing PSP testing on                                                               
a regular basis  in certain areas of the state.   For example, in                                                               
Washington [State], where  many PSP tests are  performed daily in                                                               
an area,  regulators are  able to use  this information  to track                                                               
PSP blooms, she noted.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DECKER  explained  that  this  web  site  would  allow  both                                                               
regulators and the public to track  PSP blooms in an area in real                                                               
time.  In  addition, the web site  would be used by  the DEC lab,                                                               
DEC  regulators, shellfish  shippers,  SARDFA, ADF&G  biologists,                                                               
aquatic  farmers, potential  [aquatic]  farmers  looking for  new                                                               
farm  sites,  subsistence  users,   and  PSP  researchers.    She                                                               
remarked that  she hopes DEC  includes all historical PSP  on the                                                               
web site to make it an all-inclusive site.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. DECKER  mentioned that she'd  e-mailed Rodger Painter  of the                                                               
Alaskan Shellfish Growers Association  (ASGA), and he didn't have                                                               
any  problems  with  HB 508;  however,  he'd  mentioned  possibly                                                               
adding  the  Jellet  Biotek [Limited  (JBL)]  data  of  community                                                               
monitoring programs  currently being established by  Ray RaLonde.                                                               
She  also  mentioned a  conversation  with  Lee Gerber,  NorQuest                                                               
Seafoods, Inc., plant  manager in Ketchikan; she  said Mr. Gerber                                                               
recognized    the    possibility    of    hysteria    surrounding                                                               
misinformation in  the food industry  but had  offered NorQuest's                                                               
support for HB 508.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. DECKER  referred to the  annual operating section.   She said                                                               
DEC currently works  in coordination and planning  with ADF&G and                                                               
SARDFA; however,  it's been difficult to  bring everyone together                                                               
at the  appropriate time for  preplanning of the fisheries.   She                                                               
said  she thought  bringing DEC  into the  annual operating  plan                                                               
process with  ADF&G and SARDFA  would help all three  groups plan                                                               
with an  appropriate timeline.   In  conclusion, Ms.  Decker said                                                               
she believes HB  508 is part of SARDFA's larger  goal of creating                                                               
a  more  efficient  industry  that maximizes  the  value  of  its                                                               
resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0819                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCALZI agreed  that  [HB 508]  is a  small  piece of  a                                                               
larger plan.  He mentioned HB  208 [relating to aquatic farms for                                                               
shellfish].                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0772                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL   SUTTON,  Southeast   Alaska   Regional  Dive   Fisheries                                                               
Association (SARDFA),  testified before the committee.   She told                                                               
members  that  in  1997  legislation   was  passed  that  allowed                                                               
creation of the Regional Dive  Fishery Association.  She said she                                                               
was  the  person  who  drafted  that bill,  but  hadn't  had  the                                                               
foresight  to include  DEC.   She said  she'd put  ADF&G in  [the                                                               
bill] because  it is  a partner  in management,  but DEC  is very                                                               
involved  because  the  fisheries cannot  occur  without  [DEC's]                                                               
approval on  PSP testing for all  of the shellfish species.   She                                                               
highlighted the  desire to  have [DEC]  in the  planning process;                                                               
get the problems  out of the way upfront; and  have a better view                                                               
of how the fishery is going to  occur, how much testing has to be                                                               
done, how much it will cost  the industry to pay for the testing,                                                               
and so forth.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SUTTON mentioned  that Janice  Adair [Director,  Division of                                                               
Environmental Health,  DEC] had indicated  in a letter  that some                                                               
people in the industry might not  like to have PSP results posted                                                               
[on a  web site].   Ms. Sutton  told members that  in all  of her                                                               
experience, however,  she cannot think  of a downside  to posting                                                               
PSP results on  a web site.  She indicated  Japanese buyers don't                                                               
care  about  the  level  of micrograms,  and  that  she  couldn't                                                               
foresee [posting  of PSP  results] as a  tactic to  scare buyers;                                                               
rather, it would  be a public-information source  so people could                                                               
plan  more effectively.   She  specified  that although  [scaring                                                               
buyers] was  a concern for  DEC, she didn't  see any need  not to                                                               
post all PSP results for all of  the species.  She said HB 508 is                                                               
a great bill and encouraged the committee to pass it.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0588                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCALZI  mentioned an  amendment  drafted  on behalf  of                                                               
SARDFA, which addressed Ms. Adair's  letter.  He asked Ms. Sutton                                                               
if she was in support of the amendment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SUTTON reiterated that she could  not think of any reason why                                                               
posting results on an Internet site  would harm anyone.  She said                                                               
she thought it would be good [to do] for all PSP [results].                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCALZI   said  the  committee   would  not   move  that                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0489                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  referred to a  letter submitted by  Julie Decker,                                                               
which says  it is necessary to  establish a state web  site where                                                               
all PSP  results will be  posted.   She asked if  DEC [currently]                                                               
has the role of deciding who will receive the PSP results.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCALZI  explained that when  DEC does [PSP]  testing, it                                                               
only  notifies the  person for  whom those  tests are  performed.                                                               
Posting  that information  on a  web site  would allow  everybody                                                               
[equal  access  to  the  results].    [PSP  results]  are  public                                                               
information;  it   is  beneficial   if  everybody   knows  [those                                                               
results].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0321                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN moved  to report  HB 508  out of  committee                                                               
with individual recommendations and  the accompanying zero fiscal                                                               
note.   There being  no objection,  HB 508 was  moved out  of the                                                               
House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                             

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